Friday, January 15, 2010

Perfect? Blog due 1/19

Why do you think that life in the community runs so smoothly? What aspects of this community are good, and what do you think are the disadvantages of it? Be sure to make specific textual references.

93 comments:

Blavinsky said...

In the Giver I thought the community was well organized but not very appealing. In the book one good aspect is when you were a nine you would receive a bike. If everybody had bikes and there were no cars and there would be less traffic. In the book they also mention that when you are too old you would be released from the community. In a way this strategy is very smart because they control the population. A bad attribute to the community is that you are assigned to a family unit and you are never with your birth parents. Another bad trait is the use of pills for Stirrings. I feel that this is a terrible thing and you could never truly love someone. All in all this community is well run however it is not very appealing.

Blavinsky said...

In the Giver I thought the community was well organized but not very appealing. In the book one good aspect is when you were a nine you would receive a bike. If everybody had bikes and there were no cars and there would be less traffic. In the book they also mention that when you are too old you would be released from the community. In a way this strategy is very smart because they control the population. A bad attribute to the community is that you are assigned to a family unit and you are never with your birth parents. Another bad trait is the use of pills for Stirrings. I feel that this is a terrible thing and you could never truly love someone. All in all this community is well run however it is not very appealing.

sachin said...

I think that the life in the community runs so smoothly because everything is always chosen for you and that everything has been sorted out already. The good things about this community is that you are not faced with a tough decision like what your job will be at all and that you don't have to worry about anything.
However, there are disadvantages like the fact that you can't make your own decisions like when you get your bike, there for giving you less freedom.However that is only my opinion. Maybe others think differently but this what i think about the advantages and the disadvantages in being in a community like this.

Unknown said...

In the book, The Giver, the community in which Jonas lives runs very smoothly. I think that this is because everything has its proper place. Everything MUST be in its place - or the community falls into turmoil - so everything moves PERFECTLY in their community. I think that the way the community progresses through the days are very planned-out, as it said in the book. The disadvantages clearly to me are that it seems as if there is no freedom, except for choosing where you'd want to go to do your community service hours. Their speech is also so proper and formal; I don't think I'd be able to keep up with the new way of communicating. Very plainly, their way of life just doesn't seem fun, let alone normal. In the story, kids are separated from their Birthmothers at birth as a way of birth-control, the pills for the Stirrings, which prevents crushes and young love, as well as teenage pregnancy. Also, your life is already laid out for you, so you are not faced with problems, so you have no "critical thinking skills." There is no thrill of adventure by breaking rules, because from the earliest age, kids are taught never to ever break rules. It's like it's against the rules to break the rules (HA). This way of life may be run in a very orderly fashion, but without any way to really live your life or have fun.

Bella S said...

I believe the reason the community runs smoothly is because of all the rules that are established in the community. These rules also come with consequences if the rules are broken such as being released. Everything is thought of in the community, and the things that aren’t such as everyone in the community revolting against the elders is very very impossible. These rules have been used for a very long time, and haven’t had much change. And anything else in the community isn’t to be changed. The structure, rules, lifestyle, anything. The changes that were attempted by people were thought of as a kind of joke. We can see that because when Jonas suggested to Larissa that they ask the committee if they change the size of the Releasing Room, Larissa “chortled with laughter.” A never-changing community can be good because there would never be a revolt if it is controlled in such a way that know one would ever think of the idea of it. There would also never be a need for a new way of ideas, a demand for a change, and there would be a lesser chance of a fall. But there are the disadvantages of it. There would never be a rise as there isn’t any room for change. There aren’t any risks being taken. If the thirteen colonies hadn’t decided to defy England and push for a change, there wouldn’t have been a United States. If Julius Caesar hadn’t gone to battle for expansion for Rome and had just stayed at home hoping no one came to start a war, he wouldn’t have built Rome to what it was. At the same time though, you could say he would never had been assassinated, but again, Rome wouldn’t have been remember for one of the greatest civilizations. Every empire has a rise and fall, but there needs to be a risk taken to do so. Jonas’ community has not taken a big risk, so there hasn’t been a rise or a fall. They are staying safe. You could say that there won’t ever be a problem, but then that would be pretty boring. I guess its hard to imagine a society that never acts on their what ifs. The biggest disadvantage for me would be, “I’m bored.” Think if there wasn’t a new iPod coming out every two weeks or a new network society that is even better than the one that people are just starting to figure out. Think if the biggest news of the month was my neighbor’s daughter’s instructor got a spouse. I would be very bored. If our country didn’t take risks, we wouldn’t be in a financial crisis. If our country didn’t take risks, we wouldn’t be a country. The way Jonas’ community runs smoothly needs to be questioned and to see if it can be improved, or for there to be a change to see how the society would run a certain way that could make people’s lives even easier. In simpler words experimentation. I just think it is amazing that nothing has changed in the society, and for it to be still running very smoothly without questions from the people in it.

RyanL said...

In the Giver there are Elders who make the community so robotic. One reason is that they HAVE to share feelings after dinner. If families did it here, it would be awkward. They speak lots of words that we wouldn't say often, such as distraught. Another reason the community runs so smoothly is that everyone under twelve is put in groups. The groups consist of people the same age they are. For example, Asher and Jonas are both Elevens in the beginning of the book, but Asher is still older because he was the fourth born in the year and Jonas was the nineteenth born.
But this way of living have some bad aspects also. One bad attribute is that you never know your Birthmother and you sign up for a lot of things. You must sign up for release, a spouse, and for children. Jonas can’t stop his job or take a pill to release pain. That seems unfair because it is saying that one can’t eat medicine or retire from a job. Another reason this community is bad because you have to take a pill to stop the Stirrings, or dreams of sexual desire. The Elders don’t want connection between opposite sex because you do not choose your spouse. I think the pill Jonas took after the Stirrings might be a memory pill to forget about the dream.
All in all, the community is organized fairly well but is not very appealing to me.

Blake Smith said...

In the Giver, I think that the community is so controlled that no one can make their own decisions. In a way, this is good because there is no crime or sadness. In another way this is bad because no one has the ability to choose there own life. For example, all the Twelves are assigned their jobs without being able to choose them. Another example is when you are assigned to your own family unit. You do not even get to choose your own spouse or children! I think the community runs so smoothly because there are no arguments about anything. If the real world were like this, it would end all wars and crime

Allison said...

I think that the community in the Giver is too perfect, but it does run very smoothly. I am the type of person that likes to goof around and surprise people with my personality. If I were to live in this community I wouldn't last a day. All the rules are so strict. I think this is one reason why the community runs so smoothly. An advantage that the community has is that they are very safe and isolated from everyone else in the world. This is an advantage because there wouldn't be anything bad happening like murdering or robberies.Unlike an ordinary community, there are usually crazy people that do things like that. Another advantage why this community runs so smoothly is because the instructors for the school teach the children how to speak well. I think this is an advantage because the children will know how to speak properly and not say any bad words. A disadvantage is that the people of this community aren't supposed to bring home food from work or school. For example, Jonas brought home an apple from school but he wasn't supposed to. I think this is a disadvantage because they could waste food easily. Another disadvantage is that the people do not get to pick their own families. I would also hate to be a birth mother because I wouldn't get to keep the children I gave birth to. Lastly, I think this that this community runs smoothly which is good, but no one is different from each other, which is a bad thing.

Sean24 said...

In "The Giver," the community runs smoothly because of its strict laws and how everything is so organized. The ceremonies are a good example on how the community is organized. For the ceremonies of Fours, Fives, and Sixes, they had jackets fastened down the back so they would help each other and learn interdependence. The Sevens received a front-buttoned jacket, the first symbol of independence. The ceremony of Eights was important because that is when they would start their volunteer hours. In the ceremony of Nines, they received a bike. Bikes are a good substitute for vehicles because you would be getting exercise and the Ceremony of Loss would not occur that often. The Tens received haircuts that distinguished their gender. For Elevens, they received new clothing. The book says "different undergarments for the females, whose bodies began to change." I think Lois Lowry meant say the females would get bras, but I am just using my critical thinking skills and context clues. The males received longer trousers with a special pocket for a calculator. The ceremony of Twelve was the most important, because that is when they received their "assignments." A good thing about the assignments is that everyone gets a job, meaning no hobos, decreasing the chance of gangs. A bad thing about the "assignments," is that they are hand picked by the Elders. They may be watching the children ever since they were a Newborn, but everyone makes mistakes. Even if you are unsatisfied with your "assignment," there is no turning back. In order to control the "surplus population," they have releasing for the old and young. I think the worst trait about this community are the pills for Stirrings. First, they make you share the Stirring. Then, they steal that feeling of love, that philter of the most powerful thing on earth. Despite all the laws and regulations that help make the community so well organized, the leaders probably are taking away all the freedom U.S. citizens take for granted. How would you feel if love, the only thing that seemed like it could not be stolen, was crushed in the hands of a small group of people called high justice, but only in name, not action.

Paisley Brown said...

In the book the Giver, I feel that the community runs so evenly because you have your life planned out for you. You start off as a newchild and live in the nurturing center until you are old enough to be placed into a family. Then, each year after that you get a new privilege until you are a twelve and finally get your occupation that is also picked out for you. The years following that you are trained for your job, get a spouse, receive a boy and girl child and raise them. Eventually, you get placed in the old people’s home until you are released.
Living in this community would and wouldn’t delight me. For example, I wouldn’t really enjoy having an organized life. The quote, “Life is a rollercoaster,” is how it is supposed to be, full of ups and downs. Having an organized life is also good though because at least you know where your life is going

gmitchel said...

In the giver I thought the community was so perfect because all the rules were srictly enforced and no one questioned the elders. They also can control the population because they release people when they are to old or if they make a drastic mistake. The only thing that was bad is that you had to take pills for stirrings. This is bad because you will never like someone which can be bad because if you dont like who the elders put you with you'll be stuck with him/her forever. I do not see a point to the pills so I think it is a waste of time.

BGerami said...

In the novel, "The Giver" everything seems to run perfectly in the community except there are still some problems in my opinion. A good concept about the community is that everyone has adapted to their neighborhood which makes life much easier to live in. Another good aspect about the community is that you can work with your friends and help other people. For example, Jonas and Asher were helping out at the House of Old. They bathed and took care of the elderly without pay. Some disadvantages in the community are that you don’t have many opportunities in life because all you have to forward to in the community is your job or assignment that you must do forever. Another bad thing about the community is that people get “released” out of it. I personally hate this idea because this rule will not let you live your life completely or fully. Even though, life in the community runs smoothly and easily you can never have a perfect life without errors.

katie said...

In the book the giver they live their life very planned, protected and unrealistically. One reason I think the community runs so smoothly is because all of the people in the community don’t know how to live life any differently. The way these people live their life has benefits and disadvantages. For example, when you get assigned a spouse or job. This takes away the element of choice and stress of deciding what you want to do or who you want to be with. Some disadvantages of this are you may end up with someone you don’t like or a job that you find boring. Also when you get released they keep a secret from you what it is so you don’t know if it is a good or bad thing. There are also a lot of rules you have to follow and if you break a rule everyone in the community knows and there is a consequence for everything. Although life in the community may seem simple and sweet it is not very realistic.

Quinn said...

Well I think that we live in a very different community as the one explained in The Giver, so there are reasons that their community runs better and reasons why it could run worse. In their community it seems to me that they do not really get to live the life they personally want, because everything is chosen for them,it's like they don't get to learn from their mistakes or cherish their victories. Since everything is already chosen and controlled for them, that is probably why their community runs so smoothly, because they are forced to do everything right, and no one really knows how to misbehave. I mean everyone is born from one out of three birthmothers, and right after they're born they get assigned to an assigned couple. No one gets to raise their biological child, and no one gets to expirence falling in love. They have to take pills for their stirrings to prevent any sensual emotions they have towards someone, to me it seems like their life is dull. Another thing is, that they not only get assined a job, but they have to start training for it at only twelve years old. I think that is way beyond a twelve year old's level of maturity. Even though all of that is true, the upside is that they don't have to have options. They never have to stress about choosing what your life job is, or who you're going to be with for the rest of your life, everything is already planned out for you, which could be good or bad.

nate578 said...

I think that almost all aspects of the community run smoothly because the citizens are only told to work for the profit of the community and nothing else. Not one citizen would even imagine going against what they are told because it has not occurred to them that they are pawns in making the community a peaceful but restrictive and boring place. The community runs smoothly because nobody lies or revolts within the community. The town also runs so smoothly because everyone is assigned to the perfect job for them and the people do not complain about it. However, the fact that there is almost no freedom or ability to make choices about some things could cause some instability in the community. Everything must be perfect so nothing bad happens. It seems almost like communism except with less freedom. Jonas was very apprehensive about getting his assignment because he had no idea what he excelled in or what assignment he wanted to have. Having no freedom in the community might cause unsettlement some people but it would ensure that the rest of the people would follow orders like robots.

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Shruikan said...

Hey Mrs. Thomas, I don't know what happened but my name changed even though I didn't do anything so Shruikan is Leonard.

Shruikan said...

The community runs smoothly because they use bikes a lot instead of cars. Therefore, people don't have to buy gas for their cars and the road is not as busy. Also, I think cars can make loud noises and may bother people but bikes are all quiet. This community is very organized because your assignment is chosen for based on what your parents want you to be. Something bad about this community is that you don't ever get the "feeling" of when you have a crush on someone and your parents pretty much choose your spouse and you will never appreciate it as much as when you love someone and you are engaged with each other. Overall, this community is stabilized but not a very fun community to be in.

Derek said...

I think the community in The Giver is controlled and runs very well. It is well run due to all the rules they have. Everything has an organized area to be in. The pros to this way of living is that educated people get to make choices for you. They assign you a job, a spouse, and two children. They try to make everyone alike so no one can really be made fun of. There is no polution in the community due to the lack of cars. Instead of putting people in crowded jails they are released and discarded from the community. Plus the population would be controlled because they release the old and only allow fifty people in each age group.
Some bad things are that since everyone is alike you can not be really creative and stand out in a good way to people. You can never really know your birthparents either. You never live with them in your whole life. Overall the community is well run but is boring. I would never want to live there.

Unknown said...

Rachel Sands

The Giver has its own personal world, and we know that the outside is Elsewhere. So maybe the reason this town was made was because someone wanted their version of perfection and he could have been rejected in Elsewhere, but nobody is left behind in this community. I think that's a positive aspect of the town because everybody gets the same, fair chance at life, what I dislike is when people choose another's assignment. Yes, it may be a wonderful, awesome job now, but what about the future? Especially Jonas, who’s keeping his eyes and ears wide open. And for Pete’s sake, what happened to shopping? Seriously, because when I get upset, shopping is what I turn to. So that’s a huge no-go for me. And I know when babies are born they don’t know where they’re at, and they are basically just freaking out, but right after they come into our world as one of us, the babies are whisked away from the mothers and it remains a mystery to who is whose mother and child. I wouldn’t be happy about that. And the infamous stirrings, or in our case hormones and puberty. I think that it’s a natural part of life, but sometimes a waste. And Jonas’s community gets to take the time that we wasted on other more important activities like doing homework or figuring out a crucial decision in your assignment. I don’t like the rule about getting your job at twelve/thirteen. I’d be working right now if that were the case. I feel I am much too young and I have a whole world to explore before I am ready to take in a huge responsibility like a job. In my world, we find morals to our own stories, in Jonas’s, they’re picked out for him.

batistawis said...

Life in Jonas’s community is similar to life in a perfect world. But even in a flawless community there are still imperfections. One deficient aspect of the community is that everything is set up for you. You could never decide when you want to ride a bike, what assignment to do, or who to marry. The pleasant attribute of having elders choose for you is that you will never, at any circumstances, face a perplexing decision. But in a way that is also insufficient. The book also mentioned meticulous rules making everything maneuver exquisitely in the community. All in all life in a perfect world isn’t so perfect.

Noah said...

In 'The Giver," I think that everything runs so smoothly because everything is so organized. One can only do and wear certain things depending on their age. If somebody disobeyed the rules, there might have been a great chance that they would be released from the community. It must be very difficult to live in such a community because there are very limited amounts of freedom. As a person ages they receive more tasks and additional freedom. For example, Lily has to wear the same jacket as all the other eights. As she ages she changes uniforms. First, she wears a jacket buttoned down the back. Then a jacket buttoned down the front. Finally as an eight she receives a jacket buttoned down the front with pockets so she is able to carry around her little belongings. To me I wouldn't prefer living in a community like this because their isn't enough freedom for me to wear the clothes i want to wear.

LilyJasmine said...

I think that their community runs so smoothly because the Elders control pretty much every thing that goes on. For example, when the “become adults” at the Ceremony of Twelve, the children do not have the stress of choosing what they want to be when they grow up because the Elders choose it for them. Another thing that I liked about this community was the fact that they received bikes at nine that they would ride for the rest of their lives. The fact that they had bikes instead of cars sounded like a good thing because without cars, there would be no traffic, pollution, or accidents. On the other hand, I don’t like the whole releasing thing. I read ahead and found out what it is, and I think that it is a little extreme for someone to get that punishment if they do something wrong three times. Also the stirrings situation where you have to take a pill to stop it, I don’t like that, I think its stupid how they’re trying to control absolutely everything. Including who they have a crush on. I don’t know what other people think about this community, but I definitely would not want to live somewhere like this.

Rachel W. said...

I think that the community in The Giver runs so smoothly because of their strict laws and the fact that everything is so organized. The ceremonies are a perfect example of how organized the community is because you have to be a certain age for everything that happens to you like getting to stop wearing you hair ribbons at the age of nine or getting a haircut to distinguish your gender at ten. Pills for the stirrings are one aspect of the community that I think for some reasons are good, yet I also think has a lot of disadvantages. One of the advantages of the pills that is good is that they helps prevent teen pregnancies and drama, though the disadvantages is that while taking the pill you can never fall in love so no relationship can truly be a real one. For example, I’m sure Jonas’s parents love each other but only like I love my cats, while they are taking the pill for their stirrings they will never be able to be in love with each other. Even though the community runs smoothly there is no such thing as perfect.

Elijah said...

In the book, The Giver, in which Jonas is the main character lives in a perfect community. There are several reasons why I think that this community runs so smoothly is because everything is so rounded and perfect, no one stands out. Also your job is chosen for you and you aren’t able to change what you are assigned. In addition, there are consequences, the most severe is getting released, and that means that you are kicked out of the community.
The disadvantages are that you have to get your job chosen for you, but that can also be good. For the reason of you don’t have to go job hunting or apply for a job, you just are assigned. Another disadvantage is that you are assigned a job at age 12 and that means you have to be working at that younger age.
And those are the reasons that I think that this community is good and bad at the same time in my perspective.

@@ro said...

In the giver, the first idea I got was that of a startlingly different way of life. While I read the Giver, I was constantly making comparisons between Jonas' community and mine. The book describes a way of life that endless possibilities for contrasting opinions because of the "perfection" on which it is founded. In the book, everyone gets assigned jobs that are supposed to be perfect for them, which takes away the stress of finding a job, or keeping one, or even wondering "Did I make the right choice?". But some would argue that part of the job is accomplishing all of those things and having the right to choose what kind of job to have. Besides jobs, the setup the giver talks about takes away the oneness of being a family and even having strong feelings of hate, love, happiness, and grief. Most people don’t want to have half of those emotions, but can you ever experience one without the other as its counterpart? Will you ever know if something is sweet if you have never tasted something bitter? Food for thought. When Jonas experiences these emotions for the first time, by the end he chooses that emotions, good and bad, are better than having none. Even though the community lacks key parts of humanity, it is still functions much better than most communities in the world. Because everyone has a job and it fits them and the community, the community has maximum functionality and rarely anything happens that isn’t suppose to. Since there is no currency, people have no way to better or worse themselves and there is no greed, theft, treachery, or other wealth-inspired emotions. Jonas' community is like a communist community with less flaws and more repression. With all things considered, I'd rather have life the way it is, flawed and full of emotions and choices, but that may just be because of my bias.

Unknown said...

I feel in the Giver everything runs so smoothly because everyone is doing what they are chosen to do and to do it correctly. Also, they are all very organized and laws that everyone must obey to be apart of their community. At age 4,5,and 6 they can only wear jackets with large buttons on them. When they reach the age of 8 like Lily you have smaller buttons with pockets to put your small personal belongs in thees pockets. This is a perfect example of how organized and how everyone obeys the laws. As well as getting your "Assignment Assignment" was well appreciated to their community. I feel some people may not like choosing and just like people to pick for what their career holds. Knowing what they are good at and I feel this is a advantage. A disadvantage would be some people like myself would not like someone else to give me my future job. I would like to choose what I enjoy doing and corporate that into my job. For example Jonas was very nervous for his assignment assignment once he found out it was a receiver of memory and it was very important assignment. He doesn't know what to do and feels nervous about this assignment. Having an assignment shouldn't be this stressful, especially at a young age of 12. This system works for this community but I don't think it would operate the same way in Manhattan Beach today.

Fencerchao said...

My first intimation when reading The Giver was that the community in the novel seemed extremely unusual and diverse from most modern communities today. While reading, I started comparing Jonas’s community to our community today. The community in the book runs so perfectly and smoothly, that it almost seems inhuman. The community’s citizens all follow a strict set of rules and have their jobs picked for them. They do not experience certain emotions as we do today and do not have much freedom in life. Some of the community’s aspects are good, for example, the picking of the peoples’ jobs. This is good because it takes away the stress and effort of choosing jobs and makes people stop wondering if they chose right. In the novel, the community’s elders carefully watch children to determine where hers or his skills are strong and weak. When jobs are chosen for the people, the job that the person gets is usually what they enjoy or are skilled at. This is good because some people today are not good at doing their jobs, e.g. doctors, dentists, or teachers. Another good aspect of the community is the strict set of rules they follow. The community does not have any type of currency and punishment is given to those who violate a rule. This helps eliminate greed, crime, violence, theft, etc. Because of this, most things that are not accounted for do not happen. Besides picking jobs and following rules, The Giver also demonstrates the sameness that goes on in the community. People must describe their feelings and dreams in the book, leaving them mostly extremely exposed. In addition to families, the family members in the book cannot care for one another or love each other. People in the book do not experience love, hate, passion, loss, grief, and other emotions. Not having these emotions is probably part of the whole no crime thing. After experiencing some of these emotions for the first time, Jonas realizes that having things like good and bad and evil and happiness is better than having none. The community in The Giver is probably more perfect than most of our today. Although the community in the book is more risk free, I would probably live in our community rather than The Giver’s.

PrincessSally said...

I think that in The GIver, life runs so smoothly because everything is already made up for you. For example in The Giver, your elders choose you jobs for you, so that way you don't have to worry about finding your own job by yourself. You are also assigned to a person you are going to marry so you don't have to worry about asking people out and getting dumped. They also give you a baby to take care of. This works out fine without an argument because when you start to get special feelings about another gender, you drink a pill to stop you from stirring.

Wdoglacey said...

I think the community runs so well because of the residents who live there only have one job to perform and those who do not work or do an act of wrong are released. The advantages of this would be there would be no thugs or misfits lurking in the town. This is shown in the book when Jonas's mom talks about how there was a person who had seen her twice for doing the same thing. Another good thing about the community is that the rules don't change very often which causes less confusion and breaking laws. Although there are faults to this community plan. These faults would be that you cannot choose your spouse or assignment. This could come to people committing crimes, fleeing from the community, or possibly suicide. An additional flaw would be that the people do not understand the outside world. An example of this is in the book when lily and Jonas call their comfort objects imaginary. Overall I do not think the community plan is a good one.

Armance Sherman said...

In the Giver, the community sets a very different lifestyle than what we have here. In Jonas's community, everything seems to run so smoothly. I believe that the community is like that because the Elders are so strict about all the rules they have. If you disobey a rule, you are released from, or thrown out of the community immediately. There are no second chances and no room for mistakes. Some people may think this is a good thing, but I personally disagree. Sure it may be nice not to make mistakes, but sooner or later it'll get boring. If you do make a mistake you should just get up, dust yourself off, and move on. Though my opinion is that having this "perfect" community would be horrible, I can see how one might think it'd be nice. There would be no hard decisions to make because many things are chosen for you, such as your Assignment and spouse. You also would be less embarrassed because many rules prevent that. Another good thing, in some ways, is that you don't have to worry about finding a job or not getting hired because EVERYONE gets an Assignment when they turn twelve at the Ceremony of Twelve. Something that might be annoying about that, though, is that you'd have to begin training for your Assignment at quite an early age. I'm twelve now and though it might be nice to find out what career I'd have in the future, I wouldn't want to start training for it. Some people might find the community in the Giver appealing, but I definitely prefer our community here in Manhattan Beach.

Oliver said...

In the book The Giver, I think life in the community run smoothly because no one every questions the powers in charge.
Everyone in the community believes that there is a supreme leader who is wiser than they are and knows everything about life thru past experiences. The members of the community follow the rules without ever questioning, or thinking twice about them.
One of the positive advantages to the community is that the rules prevent kids from bullying and making fun of each other. There are also rules against making comments about someone looking or being different. When Lily makes a comment about her brother Jonas having pale eyes, he expects her to be punished by their parents.
There are not cars allowed in the community. Travel is strictly by bicycle. This helps remove air pollution, allowing for a cleaner community. You get your bikes at the ceremony of nine, which means you would not have crazy young children riding around. This helps to reduce the amount of accidents.
Children are forbidden from lying and must respect adults and other children. When Jonas receives his assignment rules when her turns twelve, they say he can ask any question he wants and is also allowed to lie if he feels it is appropriate. Jones is shocked because he thinks this is disrespectful to others.
One strong disadvantage to being a part of the community is that children do not get to stay with their birth parents. New children are assigned to a family unit at the ceremony of ones, at the end of their first year of birth. An exception is if the child is not healthy enough or has not grown enough. This is what happened with Gabe. He is allowed to stay an extra year at the nurturing center and is allowed to go home with Jonas’ family each night for additional nurturing.
This community is very well organized, but it lacks the ability for you to be your own person, to express yourself and to say how you feel. I would not like to live here.

Anonymous said...

In the giver what I thought why the community runs so smoothly is that because they have a big rule book. And nobody wants to be released from the community so they follow the rules. Most of the people there want to live in a perfect community, so they don't care for the other people that don't. Since they control the population, nothing can get out of hand. They even prevent pubrity with thing they called stirrings that you have to take pills for. Some of the good aspects of the community are that there is never any crimes which we could use in are city. But one of the bad things is that they always have to go by the rules or else there is going to be a big punishment, it’s a free country were we live.

Unknown said...

In the Giver, the community was very "perfect" and trouble free, but it was not all advantages. For example, you were not able to choose your own job. If someone were to choose a job for me, I would be upset especially if it was the wrong one. You should be able to lead your life in the direction you like not someone else. Also, the pills you have to take for stirrings is a little weird. You should be aloud to have those feelings and fall in love with who you want not for someone to choose. Which leads me to my next example: not being able to choose your own spouse or children. I mean you do not get to choose your own children in real life either, but you do not get assigned one. I just do not understand how you can really feel like a family if someone chooses it for you. Even though there are many disadvantages, there are some good things. Like I had said earlier, the community is trouble free. It is also very safe. Like, how everyone either walks or rides a bike. There is a chance you could trip or fall off your bike, but I think that is betting than gatting hit by or getting in a car crash!!! Also, the children never have to worry about their parents getting divorced. This community is good and bad but honestly, I would much rather live in our world were you can live your own, free life.

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Unknown said...

The community in The Giver has its advantages and its disadvantages. I think that life in this book is too controlling and does not allow you to make your own decisions. For example, I would want to have different choices for my job, but instead the elders control what your "assignment" will be for the rest of your life. Also, they decide who you will marry and how you must act around the people in the community. On the other hand, there are some positive aspects on having an organized community. One good thing that you would not have to worry about is choosing your job. Although this could be a negative thing, it would be much easier knowing that someone will assign a job to you based on what you like.

Unknown said...

Personally I think the community runs on limitations. For example, you aren't allowed to have kids, but you're allowed to have a spouse. Another limitation is that you can't choose your spouse, but it is based on interests and compatibility. This could be a good thing for when it comes time for Assignments, but not when you're not allowed to change Assignments. It could eliminate stress and focus more on the limitations of each job. A less stressful community the more proficient and stronger the limitations become. The downside to all this is that you can't live a life you want to live. You must stay within these limitations and those who don't follow the limitations get a fair trial, but eventually could lead to a release. For example a child who is released doesn't meet the expectations of a community and is there for outside the limitations and released. I think of it as a bubble, you have to stay within the bubble just like everybody else. But if you go outside the bubble, you are already different from everybody else and that's what the community runs on, limitations .

zander said...

In The Giver, Jonas' community is very different than ours. For example, when you turn a specific age, something happens to you! For example, when you turn twelve, you get a life assignment which is your job until you retire. The community is run by the Elders, including a Chief Elder. I think for the community in The Giver, someone younger should be in charge, rather than the elderly because sometimes elderly people can lose their mind. I would not like to be given a life assignment to which I would not enjoy. You should get to choose your own occupation. Another bad aspect in The Giver is that the Elders can be released from the community. I would hate for that to happen to one of my family members. I think it would be strange, interesting and also very different to live in Jonas' world.

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cameron said...

In the giver what I thought why the community runs so smoothly is that because they have a big rule book. And nobody wants to be released from the community so they follow the rules. Most of the people there want to live in a perfect community, so they don't care for the other people that don't. Since they control the population, nothing can get out of hand. They even prevent pubrity with thing they called stirrings that you have to take pills for. Some of the good aspects of the community are that there is never any crimes which we could use in are city. But one of the bad things is that they always have to go by the rules or else there is going to be a big punishment, it’s a free country were we live.

LauraXD said...

I think the community runs so smoothly because there's a lot of rules and if you don't follow them you get released so if someone broke the rule they would get released and the community wouldn't have to deal with them anymore. I also think since the elders choose your job it runs smoother so there's no fighting over jobs and there's always a job so there's always money so no ones living on the street. The upside for a perfect community is that there's no bad people and no trouble. The dowside is that the people in the community never get to travel or explore. For example Lily's comfort object is an elephont but they thinks it's a made up creature. There not able to learn about animals and the rest of the world because there just inside the community and can't get out. Clearly there are some advantages and disadvantages to living in a perfect community, I don't know if I would want to live in one.

om ryan said...

Life in the community runs smoothly because your entire life is pretty much picked out for you in advance and everything is so orderly. You have a certain number when you are born, and an age group that goes up to twelve. Another reason it is so orderly is because Elders can control population by making each Birthmother have three children. Some positive factors of this community are being able to choose where you want to spend your volunteer hours and finding out what you like doing. For example, because Jonas liked helping the elderly, he spent his volunteer hours at the House of Old. However, many detriments of this society support my conclusion that this is not where I want to live. First, you have to adhere to so many ridiculous rules like the telling of dreams and not riding on others’ bicycles. Although organized, this community is not a whole lot of fun.

om ryan said...

Life in the community runs smoothly because your entire life is pretty much picked out for you in advance and everything is so orderly. You have a certain number when you are born, and an age group that goes up to twelve. Another reason it is so orderly is because Elders can control population by making each Birthmother have three children. Some positive factors of this community are being able to choose where you want to spend your volunteer hours and finding out what you like doing. For example, because Jonas liked helping the elderly, he spent his volunteer hours at the House of Old. However, many detriments of this society support my conclusion that this is not where I want to live. First, you have to adhere to so many ridiculous rules like the telling of dreams and not riding on others’ bicycles. Although organized, this community is not a whole lot of fun.

Kgiery said...

While reading the book The Giver the first impression I got of the community was that it was perfect. But as I read on I started having different feelings of this “perfect” community, the only reason the community runs so effortlessly is because the citizens don’t have very much freedom. The elders make all of the decisions for the people, they don’t get to choose their jobs, their spouses, or the way they dress. Not having a lot of decisions to make isn’t always a bad thing, not having to make many choices takes a lot of stress out of your life, also you can’t make the wrong choices. Personally I would never want to live in a place like this, in my mind the differences in people are what makes them great.

alexk :) said...

In the book, the Giver I thought things ran so smoothly because everyone was pretty much the same and when they had the stirrings they just took pills. I think some good aspects about the community is that the jobs that people have are ment for them and i think they will work very hard for there jobs because they love what they do. I think some disadvantages of the community are that the people are like ZOMBIES! They have barley any freedom and there whole lives are controled. This is what i think of the blog. END

alexk :) said...

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sory about that, I was forced.

Jess said...

In the book, The Giver, the community runs so smoothly because of its rules. The rules in the community have never really changed so there are not many arguments about the community. The rules are very strict and not many people want to break the rules because they could get released. Being released means the community makes you leave. Also, not many people think of changes to the community. Like when Jonas was asking Larissa, an elder, why they don’t change the size of the releasing room, she just laughed at Jonas. This community also has a lot of the same things per year. Everyone turns a different age in December, and they all get bikes when they are nines, that is the way they tell their age. If I would have to live here, I would be really bored because there is not much to do in this community. Also, it seem like they don’t like to take many risks for the community, like when the airplane flew over the town the people got really scared. They don’t have cell phones, iPods, and even cars; they get around by using their bicycles. Keeping the same rules can be boring but they are good in some ways. The community wouldn’t fall like Rome because no one would want to revolt. Even though the communities’ rules are good they unfortunately keep the community from experiencing new things.

maddien said...

I think the main reason The Giver community runs so smoothly is because everyone does what they’re expected to do and they don’t question why they’re doing it. Everyone is so similar. They have the same bikes, the same haircut, the same clothes, and the same wealth, so people can’t complain about being uglier, ignored, or worse off. People accept that they have a part in their society and must do that part. We don’t live in a perfect world; people flake on their responsibilities, but in Jonas’s community everyone does what they are told to do, no questions asked. The assignment they receive at twelve is what they must do for their whole life, and it is rarely appealed. I think the fact that people are viewed equal and there’s no prejudice is a good thing about their community. The fact that they can’t make their own choices and mistakes is unfortunate though. These people don’t learn the kind of life lessons we do everyday, but in their “perfect world” they don’t always need to. Things are taught to them through a book of rules, rather than honest mistakes and life experiences. For me that would be a sad way to live, but they don’t know what they’re missing.

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Jaya said...

“The Giver,” by Lois Lowry, portrays a utopia, in which all of the characters lead perfect lifestyles, which runs smoothly throughout the community. This had both positive and negative aspects. It protects the people from having war from conflicts, but on the other hand, nobody has a personality. I personally believe that this world is a positive thing. Primarily, the fact that each child is “assigned” to the occupation they’ll have when the turn twelve years old. This way, they will know what they’ll become and be successful at it from the training they received. Also, everybody take pills to stop their “Stirrings,” or their passionate feelings for one another. This way, any love problems like heartbreak, cheating, and divorce never happen. (Instead people are married to others that are chosen by the community elders, judged by compatibility.) Lastly, Birthmothers give birth to a total of 50 children each year, half boys and half girls. Obviously, this controls the community from getting overpopulated. In conclusion, the land created by Lowry is indeed a great one with no problems.

JCraven said...

In The Giver, by Lois Lowry, a utopian community is described. This community runs very smoothly and even though there are advantages of this there are also, disadvantages. I think this community runs so smoothly because they have specific rules that prevent people from doing things that aren’t good. Jobs are chosen by The Elders and because of this it prevents people from making bad decisions about what job to choose. Advantages of this community are that it is well governed and since the elders choose the jobs, people are the best that they can be. You can see this on page 50 when the Chief Elder pays tribute to the committee that chooses jobs. “Finally the Chief Elder paid tribute to the hard work of her committee, which had performed the observations so meticulously all year.” The disadvantages of this community are that the people are missing out on a lot of things in life since they can not make their own decisions. For example, people don’t even really know what animals are and they can’t even choose their own husbands, wives, or children.

Anonymous said...

There are three main reasons to why the community in The Giver can run smoothly. First, it is because one must abide by the laws and if they don't they can be strictly punished or released. This makes it a safe place. Another, is because if someone were to get into trouble and the announcer speaks to everyone in the speakers everyone would know about it and who did it. This creates a shameful and embarrassing feeling and this makes people want to not do there mistake or any mistake again. Lastly, nobody in the community has to worry about deciding anything because the group of elders does it for them. They also don't have to worry about who they are going to meet or what kind of baby they are going to have because it is all planned out for them. This creates a greater faith in the elders because their future relies on their observations. Some aspects that are good about the community are that everyone only rides bicycles, so there is probably half the pollution. Also, like I said before, they don't have to worry about choosing or deciding anything because it is already planned out. Some disadvantages of the community are that they never get to learn how to decide for themselves, if they'll ever need it. Another thing is that they don't really get to experience many emotions like love. This is because of the pills they take for the stirrings and because they don't get to choose who they would like to be with. My opinion about the whole choosing-for-them is that I might prefer it because I would like to see what they think I would be good at, but I might not like the idea because if I didn't like my job I would never be able to change my assignment. I wouldn't mind living in his community for a while. Overall, I can see why Jonas's community is under control and in order.

Sabrina Pickett said...

Living life like Jonas in his community would be very hard for me to get used to. There are some similarities but many differences as well. It seems to be a perfect utopia, which would be nice for a day or two. After that, I would get sick of being the same as the person standing next to me. There is no creativeness or anything special about the world that Jonas lives in, unlike ours. It seems boring and dull to me. Also, you can’t be independent at all. Everything is chosen for you your spouse, job, and children which we all have the privilege of choosing ourselves, except for children. In Joneses’ world having children is against the rules you are assigned a child We can have our own kids and we can choose how many we want instead of only being able to have two. Nobody seems to rebel either and everything is run so smooth, which is interesting to me. I don’t understand how it is possible that everyone has the same mindset. You would think someone would speak out but nobody does. It must be the set of rules that are enforced. You can’t ride a bike until you are nine, you have to wear a certain jacket according to your age, and young girls have to wear bows in their hair. What is most strange to me is how the jobs are chosen. Your job is chosen for you by the elders. But, what if they chose a job for you that didn’t suit you, you would almost be miserable for the rest of your life. There are some good things about the community. For example, like us, the children in the community go to school and work hard. They also have a judicial system and punishments as we do. They way Joneses’ community is run works but I would definitely rather live the way our society does.

Yaazie said...

I think it runs so smoothly because there is so much structure. It is also easy to communicate with the whole town. In the book there is an announce telling them that a unknown plane was flying over them, which had never happened before so they were able to go to safety. Also there are many rule and punishments so people have something to follow and know what to do so there is no confusion. Confusion leads to chaos and that is what they do not want. I think the advantages are that you do not have to make decisions and you can never fail or get hurt because your job and spouse are chosen for you so you do not have to worry about divorce or hating your job and end up being miserable. Some of the disadvantages is that you don’t know if you can accomplish more in your life than in this planned out life. Also you are supposed to learn from your mistakes and you will have no mistakes to learn from.

sravalm said...

In the giver i thought the community was very organized and peaceful. everyone had their jobs picked for them and everyone was the same. But I thought this was not an appealing community because you won't have any freedom on what you would like to do. Everything had to chosen for you. To me thats really ridiculous. I would atleast not have to think of what I would like to have. Even though i would not get i what i like there is atleast no traffic because everyone rode bikes. Also population was not a problrather live i released from your community once you have become old. I don't like the idea that children can't live with their birthmothers and have to live with an assigned family. Because of this I would rather live in my present day community.

TWhitey said...

I think the community runs so smoothly because everything is already done for you and set up in a way that is suitable for you and everyone else. Everything is the same for each gender in the community. The good things in the community are that you dont have to decide on anything in ur life, the elders do it for you. Also you dont have to go through the struggle of picking a job for the first time.

Some disadvantages are that you'll never know what ur job will be when you turn twelve and you can't make any decisions on anything. It's all up to the elders. Tese are some disadvantages and advantages on living in a community like this.

Connor!! :D said...

In the Giver, I believe the community runs so smoothly because there are so many laws that are enforced and people don't dare to break them for fear of severe chastisement. Some disadvantages of the way the community runs are the fact that everyone pretty much does the same thing, wears the same thing, and lives in the same houses. Another is the fact that if you are a child in school, you can't talk to or be around any one older or younger than you because you are put in groups called Ones, Twos, ect. One advantage of the way the community runs is that there is almost no trouble because the people are so well behaved and there really isn't that much rule breaking with the exception of the occasional chastisement to a student. The fact that the place runs so well and effiecent allows there to be no police, prisons, or criminals. I don't like the way you must share your feelings and dreams because those can be very private things to you and for you to have to relinquish those things you hold close to you for everyone to hear, it is almost embarrasing. Overall, the community is not very free, but the order of the people is well enforced.

lauren said...
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lauren said...

In the book, The Giver, the community runs very smoothly. I think this is so, because there is a very detailed list of rules to follow. There is also a precise way of living. For example, every age ceremony, you get something new, like a bike or being assigned a job. There is always the fright of people being released, so many people may try extra hard to follow rules properly, so they won't be released.This almost controls everyone so everything runs smoothly. I think it is good that they do have a lot of rules, because there wouldn't be any bad or evil and their community. Personally, having to live in a world where there are no mistakes and everyone acts almost robotic, sounds unpleasing. Many people in that community probably thinks the same. I think that the disadvantages of the community is that people there, have to follow the order of everything, and you could barely be yourself because it seems like your whole life is planned out for yourself and controlled. Another disadvantage of the community, is that you have to start holding a lot of responsibility at such a young age. For example, at the age 12, you have to be assigned a life long job.

Anonymous said...

In the Giver, I thought the community was well thought out in sameness, but it seemed like no one could live how they wanted to.The community was very organized and made sure no one got out of hand or made any mistakes. But, aren't we supposed to learn from our mistakes? I think the community runs smoothly because no one knows that they can live a different life-except for the receiver, of course. Another way it runs smoothly is because no one has feelings. No one can protest because no one can have the strong feelings to protest. But, other downs about the community is that they pick your jobs/assignments for you. What if you don't like it? Also, you have to share every detail of your life to your parents and if you have bad grammar, you get smacked by a wand. Another down of the community is that no one knows what an animal is and no one knows there's a different world outside their little communities. So, in my opinion, I wouldn't chose to live in the community.

Jack T. said...

I think the community runs smoothly for many reasons. First of all no one wants to be different. Jonas has pale eyes but he doesn’t like to talk about it because he does not want to feel different than everyone else. Also the elders or however controls the community can limit the number of people that live in the community and then not have to worry about being over thrown. Another thing that can help keep people in line is the telling of feelings and the telling of dreams. This way peoples families can come up with reason for why someone acted the way they did and be able to forgive someone for what they’ve done. These are the reasons think the community runs so smoothly.

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Fiene said...

In the Giver I think that life runs so smoothly because everyone is always doing the right thing, I’ve never read of someone doing something horrible. Another component is that they’re so isolated that they don’t really strive to rebel; there are no bullies like we have. I do think there are some disadvantages though. I couldn’t stand living there. I feel like there are to many rules and everything is so organized and put in place it drives me crazy. I don’t want to sound selfish but if I were forced to do community work I wouldn’t do it just because the community work that they do is bathing someone, that’s not my cup of tea. I could also se some advantages, I really want to grow up so getting a job when your twelve would be awesome. Also I wouldn’t have to worry about getting robbed or kidnapped because nothing of that sort happens in that community.

alyssa z said...

In the Giver by Lois Lowrey, the people who live there dwell differently than we do. They have a very organized and civilized community. I think their community runs so smoothly because everyone is the same. Except for their personalities and phenotypes. for example each family unit has 2 children, one male and one female. Also there are no individual birthdays. Everyone ages at the same pace. Each year in this community until you are twelve you earn something new. When you are very little you get a name and a family. When you are eight you get a front-button jacket with pockets. When you are nine you get a bicycle and girls loose your hair ribbons. When you are ten girls loose braids and both males and females get haircuts. When you are eleven you get new under-clothes. And lastly when you are twelve you get your assignment. The good parts to living this way are you are never stuck with hard decisions. Also everyone behaves and obeys the rules. Plus you wouldn't know any different. The disadvantages are, not being able to be creative with wardrobe, or any individuality. Also there is no room for error. Everyone learns from their mistakes, which means there is less education. In the Giver this system works, but I am not sure how it pan out in the "real" world.

kggrafton said...

In the Giver community life is very simple. People wake up, tell their family unit about their dreams, they go to work or school, they come they tell their family how their day went then go to sleep. This daily schedule is why I think this community runs so smoothly. Also, everyone has to ride a bike to their destination thus not causing car traffic and ultimately letting the community run smooth. This community has many pros and cons. Some of the pros that this community contains that your husband or wife is selected for you based on your skills and interests, you are assigned your life career so you don't have to search for the perfect job. Some disadvantages are that everyone in the community sees only in black and white, when you are born you are assigned to a family unit and you never get to see your real mother, and if you break the law three times you get killed. If I had to live in this community I would run away in an instant. I could not live in a place where everyone is exactly alike and this is why I'm so happy to live in the kind of world I live in

kggrafton said...

In the Giver community life is very simple. People wake up, tell their family unit about their dreams, they go to work or school, they come they tell their family how their day went then go to sleep. This daily schedule is why I think this community runs so smoothly. Also, everyone has to ride a bike to their destination thus not causing car traffic and ultimately letting the community run smooth. This community has many pros and cons. Some of the pros that this community contains that your husband or wife is selected for you based on your skills and interests, you are assigned your life career so you don't have to search for the perfect job. Some disadvantages are that everyone in the community sees only in black and white, when you are born you are assigned to a family unit and you never get to see your real mother, and if you break the law three times you get killed. If I had to live in this community I would run away in an instant. I could not live in a place where everyone is exactly alike and this is why I'm so happy to live in the kind of world I live in.

netpaz said...

I think that everything in the community is running so smoothly because everything about this community is chosen for you. I feel that they are very naive and dont know about many things like animals and color. I think that most of this as a bad thing. For example, not being able to know what music is or love. They remind me of robots. They dont know right from wrong. They just follow what the elders say to do and they think it is right. A good thing in this eutopia is that they will never have wars or problems because there is no religion or opinions.

BLAKEm said...

I think that the community runs so smoothly because everything is so controlled. Nobody can do anything without someone knowing. Nobody can even go through a day without having to tell someone else how they feel or what they dreamt about because its a rule that everyday when they wake up they have to share their dream and every night they have tell about their feelings from the past day. To me, its kind of scary. If I did the smallest thing wrong that doesn't even effect the people around me, like taking an apple home from the recreation center, a voice would come over the intercom and tell me that I wasn't allowed to have the apple. Although this keeps everything stabilized and under control, it doesn't let anything out of the ordinary happen. Nothing great nor terrible ever happens, which means that day after day, everything is the same. To me it seems that nothing is really real, and nobody in the community actually knows what it is like to live their own life and be their own person. Which is one major con.

bayc5 said...

I think that life in the community runs so smoothly because every thing is perfectly organized from when you are born to when you go to the house of old. I also think it runs very smoothly because there are strict rules that must be followed, and if not there are punishments. All of the people also act very sophisticated and mature. The kids, such as Jonas were all born into this life style so they do not no to act any different. It probably runs smoothly because everything is chosen for the people , which means they are no problems or conflicts. Overall with everything organized and planned the community that Jonas and his family lives in runs very smoothly.

bayc5 said...

I think that life in the community runs so smoothly because every thing is perfectly organized from when you are born to when you go to the house of old. I also think it runs very smoothly because there are strict rules that must be followed, and if not there are punishments. All of the people also act very sophisticated and mature. The kids, such as Jonas were all born into this life style so they do not no to act any different. It probably runs smoothly because everything is chosen for the people , which means they are no problems or conflicts. Overall with everything organized and planned the community that Jonas and his family lives in runs very smoothly.

Trace said...

In the Giver, life runs so smoothly simply because the rules are obeyed so well. Nobody ever breaks the rules where the Giver takes place. This allows the community to have less crime, feeling, and crazy thoughts. Also, the world is so much more strict than our world. For example, each and every year, a child is rewarded with a new type of change. Those changes may include bikes, button-up shirts and even pockets. This like many other examples is a good thing about the Giver's World. Also, the way how they eliminate decisions like being married and careers can be helpful but not helpful at the same time. Overall, I think that the world in the Giver is much worse than life is today.

Unknown said...

In "The Giver" I think that everything runs smoothly because of all the rules that are set. No one ever questions authority and everything is organized. Since almost everything that a person does is monitored it is hard to break the rules that the elders make. If u violate a major rule three times, then you are released from the community. Aside from the many rules, almost every important decision is decided for you. For example, you don't pick your career, instead, the elders watch you for about a year and then decide for you. You are also chosen a spouse instead of picking a person for yourself. When you turn a certain age you are privileged with something new almost every time and based on the characters in the book they seem to be very excited about everything.
There are many advantages and disadvantages about how the community is run. The advantage is that no one seems to get hurt and they seem happy. The disadvantages are that your life is practically decided for you by the elders and you won't be able to do what you want to do unless the elders decide that that is what is best.

Unknown said...

In the book The Giver, life runs so smoothly for a number of ways. First, the population knows nothing outside of their regular life. Even the Elders, besides the Receiver, can't imagine anything different. There is a very organized system that is routinely followed perfectly. There a few good aspects to the community. There is no pollution because everyone rides bicycles. Fighting doesn't happen often because no one has anything to complain about. Rule-breaking is strongly disciplined when the children are young, so they are trained for obedience. In the community there is no poverty, hunger, or any of the other worldly problems we face today. The food is rationed so that everyone has enough, so there is no need to get paid for the jobs because there is nothing to buy. Sickness is not much of a threat because they have advanced medicine in the community. There are also down sides to living in the community. The citizens in The Giver can not see color. Everything is black and white to them. They don't even know that they are missing something in the world. There are no animals in their utopia society. People think animals are misfits, and would be shocked to think that there was something alive other than humans. Another disadvantage is the lack of choice. Everything in people's lives are chosen for them. People can't choose their jobs, spouses, or homes. The newchildren are taken from the birthmothers and assigned families. There is no love or even any strong emotions of any kind. Those are prevented by the Stirring pills and the absence of anything that could evoke emotions that would cause an uprising in the community. The community in The Giver has its benefits and disadvantages, but I would not want to live there.

eDifley said...

I think life in Jonas' community runs so smoothly because you have no choice. There is no color, you can't choose what color the outfit your going to wear is. You don't get to choose your job which means you can't quit, be fired, or choose something that's not meant for you. Also, you can't even choose your spouse or have your own kids. I think that's a decision only the people getting married can make. I also think that choosing how to wear your hair, riding a bike, and which way you wear your jacket(as well as if it has buttons, a zipper, or is a pull-over) is something that kids should chose for themselves. The advantages to having no choice or freedom are: no suicide, no angry people, and it's hard to make a mistake. When I make a mistake I get this feeling in my stomach and my face gets all hot, that's called embarrassment and if you don't make mistakes, you never learn. A cat never sits on a hot stove twice as the saying is. Also, taking out decisions takes out all the fun in life as well. They also don't experience much fun. The closet thing I've heard to them having fun is when they were tossing the apple back and forth, and that's not very fun. Roller Coasters and sledding and spinning in circles until you barf is fun. When I was about six years old I kept wishing for all the Polly Pockets in the world but then I learned that if I got what I wanted and nothing was wrong, then it would be boring and I think that Jonas' community is awfully boring

Unknown said...

I think that the community runs so smoothly because everyone does what they are told and listens to the rules. I also think this is true because everyone shares their dreams and their feelings so they don’t feel angry towards anyone. Jonas's parents helped him figure out why he was feeling so weird, and Jonas felt better. He was able to go through his day without questioning his feelings. I think that the community is good because there is no violence and everyone gets along. If I lived there, I wouldn’t like that we were assigned a family and everyone seemed to be the same. I also wouldn’t like that we would have to share our feelings and dreams because then we would have no privacy. I think it would be hard to be assigned a career as a child for the rest of your life like Jonas and his friends were.

Yu The Great said...

In The Giver, I believe the reason the community runs smoothly and efficiently is because of all the rules that are established in the community. These rules also come with harsh consequences if they are ignored, such as being released. Everything is taken to serious consideration in the community, so the things that aren’t such as everyone in the community revolting against the elders are neigh impossible. I assume that those rules have been used for a very long time, they haven’t changed, and probably won't change; the infrastructure, rules, lifestyle, anything at all. Any changes that are attempted by people were thought of as a kind of joke. I came to this conclusion because when Jonas told Larissa that they should ask the committee to change the size of the Releasing Room, Larissa just laughed. Also, I pondered upon the answer to a question that I had had in mind: How is it that in a world, a community can have no contact with any other civilization, ever? This question had only two answers that I could come up with: one, this is the only civilization in existence (which is very, extremely unlikely), or two, it is extremely isolated, much like China (which is much more likely). A community that does not change and is, perchance, isolated can have positive values, such as a rare chance of rebellions, and the lack of the need to spend time and people to advance in the area of arts and technology. Also, the people will be very organized and since everything is all laid out so nicely, I doubt there are any people who are in poverty or homeless. Even though there are undoubtedly many good things about this unchanging group of people, there are still plenty of disadvantages that will take place. For example, there would never be rise, since change cannot take place. This particular group seems to allow no risks to be taken. This may be a smart move, but a nice analogy could be if room 126 did not do their homework, they would not grow and gain education. You may say that room 126 is risking their "playing time," but then again, they would most likely be dumb, boring, NORMAL people (yuck). Every great, accomplishing task or action contains some risk, and Jonas’ community has not taken a big risk, so there haven’t been any great accomplishments. They are simply remaining safe. You could say that there won’t ever be a problem, but then where is the fun and excitement? Also, I feel that the main problem for this community is the lack of experimentation. I should think that it's hard to imagine yourself in a society that has no "what ifs." I mean what if in present day, there is no MAC workers to think, "Oh, what if I put applications on the I-Pod Touch?" or "What if this model of an I-Pod works even better?" Then probably we won't have great I-Pod Touch's. Think about it: if United States did not take risks, we would most likely never be in this financial crisis, yet at the same time, if our country didn’t take risks we wouldn’t even be a country. What I think is really actually keeping this society together is oppression and secrecy. I think that some one actually knows about everything else in this world, and works his butt off to make sure the information remains secluded form the rest of the people. Since the people don't have knowledge of colors such and red or blue, they can't argue about what color T-shirt they're going to wear on Tuesday. Since they don't know about cell phones, they can't complain about the slow communication. They probably think that their communication is fast! All in all, I think that this is an extremely efficient, yet terrifyingly boring community, and that I, personally, would never think about living there.

Unknown said...

I think that the community runs so smoothly because it is all run by the elders. No one gets to think of what to do and they just do what they are told to do. This could be a good thing because nobody would think about committing a crime or hurt anybody on purpose. This could be a good thing to do but it is also a bad thing because nobody learns anything else than the elders want them to. There would be no progress in technology. If somebody somehow gets out of the community or lost then he or she will not know how to survive by themselves. This is what I think that the lifestyles ups and downs are of this community.

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In the book The Giver,I thought the community very well run, but I would not like to live there though. In the book a good aspect is when you are nine you get a new bike and I think that would be pretty cool. A good thing about that is that there would be less traffic and no pollution in the air. Another good aspect about the community is that when you turn twelve you get your job chosen for you. I would like to have my job chosen for me because I hate having to be put under all that pressure on choosing the right thing. Some of the bad things about the community are that you are assigned to a family that is not yours and I would hate that because I would like to live with my own real mother and father and not some random person. I would also hate to have my name chosen randomly. I would want my name to be chosen either because it has a special meaning or that my parents really like the name that I have. Overall I would not mind living in this community but I would not want to live there forever.

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ccarey said...

In the book The Giver the community is very well controlled. In in way that it is very well organized is that there are ceremonies everytime you turn a different age. For example on the ninth ceremony you recieve a bike and get to stop wearing bows in your hair. On your tewelth ceremony you recieve an assighnment from the elders of the community. The assighnment is your career in which the elders think you would be a success in. I think this is a good way to keep the community orgfanized because at a young age people are set with what they will do in the future, so they can start working on getting better at it over time. ANother way it is organized is that is very private so no invaders will be able to get through. One way that I dont think should be in a perfect world is the way that babies are made. My oppinion is that everybody should give child birth if they want to have a child. Other than this Jonas is pretty lucky because he does live in a pretty perfect world.

~Lindsey L~ said...

In the Giver, their community tries to be as smoothly run as possible. An advantage of a community like this is that there aren’t very many choices such as choosing who you marry, having kids, and your job assignment. These decisions are made for you and are basically set in stone. For some people who are unsure of what they want, there is no need to worry about picking your job or most other life decisions. Also, people in this community cannot be judged on their appearance because they are wearing the same things and look similar. The advantage of not be judged by others is that there would be less conflict. A bad aspect is that citizens do not have the freedom to choose their companion. Marrying someone you hardly know and living with them for the rest of your life would be awkward and disappointing. If someone marries someone they do not like it may cause unhappiness. I do not think it is right to take the stirrings pills because people should not hide their feelings towards each other. It’s natural for people to be attracted to each other and to act on those feelings. This community tries to be so perfect that they actually not perfect and not genuine. It seems as if the people of this community are not living their lives, they are living the community’s lives.       

blazakeB. said...

In the book the "The Giver" life runs very smoothly for the community but some aspects of the community could be good or bad. For example in the book jobs were assigned at the age of 12 by the elders. If this were the case in every community then no one could make the mistake of choosing a career that was not right for them. Another good aspect of the community is that precision of language was a necessity in the community meaning that since there were no errors in speech, and any of the few errors were scolded against, one could not misunderstand somebody’s criticism or there compliments. Some things that could be bad about the community were that since one could not choose their own career they could not have the chance to learn from their mistakes. Another bad thing is that though everything was controlled some things bad still could happen and since the community was based upon a schedule that was set in stone one minor infraction could lead to bigger things. All in all the community would have its ups, and its downs but it would be a very good (but boring) place to live

Kate said...

In the start of “The Giver”, the community runs smoothly because of the way the people were almost brainwashed. There were jobs like the nurturers, like Jonas father was. His job was to nurture babies to grow and develop like the children that lived in the community. They were all the same, believed the same things, taught the same things and never disagreed. The family shared their feelings in their nightly ritual. They didn’t know strangers. The children of each age group developed at the same pace and were never better or stronger than the other.
The things that are good in the community were that people have less stress. They knew what they were supposed to do each day from the time they were born. They were raised by nurturers that cared for them 100% of the time and make sure they grow healthy into their community.
There were things that were bad for the community. For example, when Jonas had his feelings of his wanting or stirrings, the community rules that the parents give them a pill that helps the child or adult stop feeling their true feelings. Jonas realized he liked the real feelings that they called stirrings and the pill was a plan to take those feelings away from people. It’s like the people became numb of what was around them. The children also felt uncomfortable with the other children that visited from other communities. They felt as though they were not as smart and noticed they were different. The releasing of the elderly and they young that couldn't develop like they wanted them to be a big part of the story. The releasing is their death, if they want it or not.
The story is unusual and the it’s hard to imagine a life that is planned like that. It makes me appreciate the life I have instead of life in their community.

Stella and Connie said...

Wow, Ms. Thomas, you have some very smart 7th Graders! I think they all deserve an A+. I enjoyed reading this book. The message seems to be that you can't have the good without the bad. No colors, no sunshine, no weather, no love, no intense feelings, no choices. The consequence of all this restriction is "sameness" and of course no suffering (except for the person selected to hold all the bad memories. That person gets not only to remember, but to actually experience the good and bad memories.
This book left me wondering what happened to all those people. Did the people get help they needed to deal with all those experiencial memories? Did Josh get in out of the cold and was he included in a loving family. Did he grow up and have to go to war? Did Gabriel survive?
Do we have to get rid of the good things in life to aliviate suffering? I'm sure there must be a better solution.

sachin said...

I think the community runs really smoothly because of the fact that there aren't any choices. If the community picks your spouse, for example, you will be matched with the perfect person. The good aspects are that everything is taught properly and everything is safe. I think that everyone should endure pain and know colors. Without this there is less wisdom and knowledge. Without knowledge and wisdom you will not have the smarts to know if you are bleeding or not. If you are bleeding without knowing it you could die. However, I think that knowledge on warfare should be kept secret to stop any violence.

Missy P said...

Although the community in the The Giver may seem like a smooth running utopia, it has many imperfections. Problems such as war, poverty, divorce, pollution, disease, and all forms of emotional pain have been eliminated to ensure that life in the community runs smoothly. On the surface, this appears to be good. However, in exchange for the elimination of these problems, the citizens of the community must unknowingly sacrifice their freedom to express their individuality, and give up their free agency. Unfortunately, the elimination of sadness lead to the elimination of happiness because without experiencing pain, one cannot appreciate joy. Additionally, the community lacks many other things like fun, music, animals, weather, color, and above all -something I consider essential to life- love. For these reasons, life in the community runs smoothly, but life in the community is also very dull, predictable, isn’t very enjoyable, and most importantly, lacks meaningful relationships and love.